Board/Minutes/2021-10
Date and time: Friday 29 October at 14:00 UTC - Countdown
Location: Video room https://osmvideo.cloud68.co/user/ror-nt7-6tu
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Participants
Board members
- Allan Mustard (Chairing)
- Eugene Alvin Villar
- Guillaume Rischard
- Jean-Marc Liotier
- Mikel Maron
- Amanda McCann
- Tobias Knerr
Officers and board
Biographies
Not Present
Guests
Open to all OSMF members.
- 21 guests, including Geoffrey Kateregga (Presentation by the Uganda community)
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Administrative
Previous minutes
- 2021-09 Approved
Circular Resolutions
2021/Res36 Translation budget for LCCWG moderation subcommittee
The Local Chapters and Communities Working Group (LCCWG) moderation subcommittee is provided with a budget of up to €1000 for translation services. |
Approved on 2021-10-06 with 3 votes in favour: Allan Mustard, Mikel Maron, Tobias Knerr. |
Circular by Tobias Knerr. |
Related to the discussion following the LCCWG presentation during the September 2021 public board meeting.
2021/Res37 Sign non-disclosure agreement with Takeover Protection Special Committee
Sign the standard OSMF non-disclosure agreement with the current two members of the Takeover Protection Special Committee (2021/Res23) and share all current legal advice the Board has received on this topic with that Special Committee. |
Approved on 2021-10-24 with 4 votes in favour: Mikel Maron, Tobias Knerr, Allan Mustard, Amanda McCann. |
Circular by Amanda McCann. |
2021/Res38 Data Working Group to implement proposed updates to Ban Policy
By the board's request, the Data Working Group (DWG) has proposed changes to the Ban Policy, especially to reflect the practice of imposing blocks until a particular action has been taken. The board asks DWG to edit the policy document accordingly. |
Approved on 2021-10-28 with 5 votes in favour: Tobias Knerr, Jean-Marc Liotier, Eugene Alvin Villar, Mikel Maron, Allan Mustard. |
Circular by Tobias Knerr. |
Action item updates
See Board/Action_Items.
Treasurer's report
Previous reports during monthly board meetings |
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Please note that additional financial-related topics have been discussed during previous board meetings. |
Presented by Guillaume Rischard. |
- Donations: We received 1.8 Bitcoins (~ 77,000 GBP), already converted to Euros) (OSMF Bitcoin address).
- Corporate members:
- Facebook: Corporate membership invoice submitted. Treasurer has access to their "supplier" portal and waiting for them to provide access to Dorothea.
- Microsoft: Reactivation of our "supplier" account on their portal is pending.
Tax: We have to pay a significant amount of tax. Could we spend a significant amount by end of this year? (Question by Tobias Knerr)
> Difficult.
> We have received income (donations) for the fundraising for the developer and Senior Site Reliability Engineer (SSRE) positions. We planned to have them contracted (iD) and hired (SSRE) earlier. We might not have to pay tax for the donations - Treasurer to check with accountant.
Suggestion
- To provide money to the Engineering Working Group (EWG) who have requested 50,000 Euros for a budget.
> We could do that, especially if they need USD.
Other points mentioned
- Significant expenditure so far: on the new Dublin Data Center.
- We saved money by not traveling (board annual face-to-face meetings were replaced by online meetings in 2020 and 2021).
- OSMF relocation: Part of motivation of relocating is obtaining a charity-status.
- Budget and fundraising committee have to collaborate to reduce our tax liability.
Scheduling a general meeting for Spring (northern hemisphere) / Autumn (southern hemisphere) 2022
Membership prerequisites background |
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The OSMF membership voted in 2020-12 and decided the following:
"The board of directors shall, together with the OSMF Membership Working Group, work on a set of proposals to ensure that all successful applicants for membership or associate membership in the OpenStreetMap Foundation have made a reasonable amount of contributions to OpenStreetMap. The specific form of the contributions (e.g. mapping vs. non-mapping) does not make a difference for the fulfillment of these prerequisites. The board shall submit these proposals as possible resolutions at a general meeting in 2021." The rationale is presented here. The Membership Working Group (MWG) does not have the humanpower to complete the work in time for the Annual General Meeting (AGM) in December, so some board members had offered to help. During the October board chat it was decided that there is not enough time for the board to propose a resolution for the Annual General Meeting in December. One of the suggestions was for the (new) board (formed after 11 December) to propose changes to the membership prerequisites, to be voted by the OSMF members on a General Meeting, which will take place within the next 6 months. Related board discussions:
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Suggested by Tobias Knerr. |
Related action item from the October mid-month board chat: Tobias to have a motion ready to be voted by the board during the October board meeting. The motion will mention that the next board must write the text for a special resolution1 regarding membership requirements, to be voted by the membership at a General Meeting that will take place during next Spring (Northern hemisphere) / Autumn (Southern hemisphere).
1"Special resolution" has the meaning given in section 283 of the Companies Act 2006. A special resolution, when approved, changes the Articles of Association (AoA) of the Foundation.
- The board was tasked by the membership in 2020-12 to work on a set of proposals to ensure that all successful applicants for membership or associate membership in OSMF have made a reasonable amount of contributions to OpenStreetMap.
- These proposals had to be submitted as possible resolutions at a general meeting in 2021 but the board did not act as quickly as they hoped and the proposals are not ready.
- In order to get the proposals to the membership earlier than the 2022 Annual General Meeting (AGM), the suggestion was for the new board (formed after the 15th Annual General Meeting in December) to work on the proposals and have a general meeting in April 2022.
- Discussed during the October mid-month chat.
Concerns
- It will take a lot of time and consensus on Membership Working Group, who already have limited available time to work on this. The board probably has to do all the work on writing the proposal.
- The resolution might not be ready by April.
Suggestions
- Set an informal deadline in April, without the need to schedule a general meeting.
- Keep the date. The next board can postpone the general meeting, if done in a timely manner.
Other points mentioned
- During the 2020 Annual General Meeting (AGM) there was another vote by the membership on takeover protection (Vote 4: Instruct the Board to investigate paid votes) and there is some work done on that.
- Setting deadlines can be useful in focusing attention and establishing priorities.
Unanimously approved on 2021-10-29 with 7 votes in favour: Allan Mustard, Amanda McCann, Eugene Alvin Villar, Guillaume Rischard, Jean-Marc Liotier, Mikel Maron, Tobias Knerr. |
Background |
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The Operations Working Group (OWG) in July created a plan for next year, starting in 2022Q2, which was shared with the board. It will form the basis for a budget when a budget request is received from the OSMF Board.
The OWG has also asked the board:
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Suggested by Tobias Knerr and during the October mid-month board chat. |
Treasurer
- Budgets should synchronise, ideally with a start time not during election time.
Suggested budget period: June to June.
Other points mentioned
- Budget committee to be formed soon.
- Need to synchronise with donors' donation cycles.
- Some Working Groups (WGs) will never have a budget.
- Data Working Group (DWG): no budget
- Membership Working Group (MWG): only work by consultant on membership database.
- State of the Map organising committee (SotM WG): special position.
Action items
- Guillaume to respond to the Operations Working Group
- Mikel to reach out to major donors and find out their preferred cycles to request donations and communicate with Guillaume.
Microgrants - next round
Background |
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The trial round of Microgrants (financial help provided by the OSM Foundation to applicants for OSM-related projects) ended in October 2021 (1 year period since dispersing funds).
Second round Related documents and suggestions:
First, trial round Final report by the Microgrants committee
'Projects' reports by grantees Almost all projects have sent their final reports and you can read them on the OSM wiki. The respective project proposal is linked towards the top of each page.
An apology was issued by board members Mikel Maron and Joost Schouppe regarding conflicts of interest in the awarding of microgrants in 2020, as both were closely associated with successful grantees. Background Timeline
2020
Timeline with more details here. |
Suggested by Amanda McCann and during the October mid-month board chat. |
Can we afford a second round?
Treasurer
- A second round wouldn't be a priority. We are low in Euros.
- Preference to focus on budget process and fundraising right now.
Suggestions
- Have a budgeting process with projections and include microgrants in it.
- We could do microgrants throughout the year instead of doing rounds. (by Treasurer)
Other points mentioned
- The first microgrants round was funded by a portion of the Pineapple donation.
- There was some good feedback by the community, even from people who don't like microgrants.
Action items
- The board to ask the Microgrants committee to work on formulating a refined proposal for the next round based on community feedback. In the meantime the board will work on budgeting and fundraising.
- Guillaume to suggest to the Microgrants committee to have microgrants throughout the year instead of doing rounds.
Questions and comments by guests on the chat
How do you want to define the next committee? The members were nominated by the board. Do you want personal changes? (by Hanna Krüger, Microgrants committee, guest)
> Happy with current committee composition. (Allan and Guillaume)
> If someone doesn't want to continue, the board would look at replacing them.
Couldn't we ask for sponsors for microgrants? (by Janet Chapman, guest)
+1 on microgrants continuation, and OSMF financing these grants intentionally will help improve contributions to for many communities/groups. (by David Luswata, guest)
Analysis of options for OSMF relocation
Background: Investigation into moving OSMF out of the UK, and into the EU |
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The OSMF board is considering relocating the OSMF to the EU and is consulting the members for feedback, advice and whether they’ve missed anything.
Comments by members on the osmf-talk* mailing list: thread 1, thread 2. * osmf-talk is the mailing list for OpenStreetMap Foundation members (Join the Foundation). All past messages are available here.
Please note that there were extensive discussions about Brexit and its effects by the Licensing Working Group (LWG) (search the LWG minutes for "Brexit") and the issue was also previously discussed by OSMF members and the board. Recent board discussions about relocation
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Suggested by Allan Mustard and during October mid-month board chat. |
Related action item: Jean-Marc to provide during the October board meeting a list of which countries have responded to us with information which is worth examining and what are our realistic options and to start looking at whether the new board will want to move in 2022 out of the UK.
Jean-Marc to:
- send to the board a draft document outlining the options within the next week.
- email Guillaume.
State of the Map safety policy wording
Background |
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Question by Amanda McCann (board member): "Should the OpenStreetMap Foundation change its trademark policy so that State of the Map events can't be held in places where it's illegal to be gay if that event covers a place where that's legal?" Previous board discussions:
Community discussion: Should OSMF adopt a policy about State of the Map conference in places that are LGBTQ*/etc unsafe?
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Suggested by Mikel Maron. |
Points mentioned during discussion
- The introduction of a policy was suggested by Amanda and it has been quite stressful.
- The version suggested is watered down and more ambiguous, compared to what Amanda had in mind.
- This policy introduces an additional constraint to the State of the Map (SotM) quick licence (current constraint: Organisers do not represent the Foundation).
On speakers giving discriminating talks during SotM conferences
- The topics of the conference and the speakers should be relevant and upheld to the standard of the safety policy.
- Giving discriminating talks would probably constitute a licence violation and the State of the Map organising committee (SotM WG) and Licensing Working Group (LWG) would take it into consideration when they would evaluate their next application to host a SotM conference.
On conference organisers doing everything within their ability to ensure safety
- We cannot burden the organisers to form their own police force to walk people around and ensure their safety.
- In big cities like Washington D.C., Istanbul, Moscow, there are areas that are safe to walk around and areas which are dangerous.
Change in suggested text of safety policy: within their ability. Changed to: "reasonably possible"
Concern
- It is easy to check a box on the SotM application form (form not updated yet), saying that the proposed city to host the SotM is safe enough.
- Comment that the board trusts the work of the State of the Map organising committee.
Questions by guests
International SotM in US
Does this mean that there couldn't be a global SotM in the US due to systemic racism? (Question by Janet Chapman, guest)
> There is a lot of nuance in the question.
> The details are left to be assessed by the State of the Map organising committee (SotM WG), in discussion with the people who sent the proposal.
> There could be a conference there. There is no place in the world that doesn't have really difficult societal issues and where people don't face discrimination. Some places that have legal structures and societal expectations are in better shape than others.
Countries with Visa requirements
Should there be any consideration of places that greatly discriminate on visas? So many people from many places can't come? (Question by Janet Chapman, guest)
> It is a consideration but it is separate from the topic here.
Regional SotM in Saudi Arabia
If OSMF receives a grant from Saudi Arabia, would this grant be rejected because it is a country that would be disqualified? how far do we go? we need to understand the consequences of such a rule. (Question by Willy Franck, guest)
> We are discussing two situations: international SotM and regional SotM applications.
> For international SotM, hosting it in Saudi Arabia would probably be unlikely.
> A regional SotM Saudi Arabia could take place.
The problem is legitimate, it must protect all minorities and guarantee the safety of all. I understand the need to mention it formally so that the local organizing committees take it into account as a criterion. But do we need to include it in the OSM license or in the SotM regulations? (Question by Willy Franck, guest)
SotM in France and burqa
It is illegal to wear burqa in France. No global SotM there? The OSMF diversity statement is to protect the religion (Question by Imre, guest)
> This would need to be assessed by the SotM working group, as part of the application process for hosting an international SotM.
Vote on a State of the Map safety policy
Vote to approve the following State of the Map safety policy. |
Approved on 2021-10-29 with 5 votes in favour: Allan Mustard, Guillaume Rischard, Jean-Marc Liotier, Mikel Maron, Tobias Knerr. |
The initial wording is on https://hackmd.io/LeDghe__SouDvQ-ofeOx3A#Mikel%E2%80%99s-proposal and was updated in two places during the meeting. Changes:
within their ability. Changed to: "reasonably possible"Details of the trademark application update is the mandate of the Licensing Working Group. Changed to: "Details of the trademark are the mandate of the Licensing Working Group".
The State of the Map organising committee and Licensing Working Group to implement the details.
Future of the FOSS Policy Special Committee
Background |
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The creation of the FOSS Policy Committee was approved in September 2020. The committee was tasked with implementing the Foundation's FOSS Policy, specifically:
The committee reported back to the Board of Directors after the completion of the inventory, and produced a report (raw data) in January 2021, after concluding its tasks. Related board topics:
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Suggested by Tobias Knerr. |
Suggestions by the FOSS Committee:
- Perform another inventory of the OSMF's software landscape in 2022 and compare the outcome with the previous inventory.
- Document the lessons learned and recommendations for future inventory rounds. Publish and present to the board.
- Help with the email migration away from the Google suite.
Action item: Tobias to create a circular.
Advisory Board - monthly update
Background |
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The Advisory Board members are separate from the OSMF board of directors - individuals are either nominated by Local Chapters and Gold or higher Corporate Members of the OSMF or invited directly by the OSMF board of directors. The OSMF Board of Directors will publicly minute, in the board meeting minutes, any communication sent to, or received from, the AB members. This monthly section is reserved for this purpose. Overview of board communications with representatives on the Advisory Board. 2021 Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep |
Topic presented by Amanda McCann (Secretary). |
- Advisory Board meeting on 2 November, open to observers at https://osmvideo.cloud68.co/user/dor-xfp-n4t-nuw
- There was an email from the board to local chapter representatives on the Advisory Board about potential board candidates. It resulted in a discussion mainly with OSM-UK (Local Chapter) about whether OSMF could support or compensate the local chapters for local chapter administrative tasks. Five suggestions were made by OSM-UK: shared networking, paying, run systems like membership database, contractor for local chapter projects, more microgrant rounds.
- Meeting of the OSMF board and Advisory Board in November (open to observers). It will include presentations by ESRI and Microsoft (Gold OSMF Corporate Members). Secretary to send invitation.
Monthly presentation - Uganda community
About this monthly section |
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In 2020 the board started hourly discussions with Corporate Member representatives on the Advisory Board and inviting Local Chapter representatives on the Advisory Board to give 10' presentations during public board meetings (this slot). A year later, during the 2021-04 board meeting, delegation of the Local Chapter presentation scheduling was suggested by the Secretary (Amanda McCann), who was previously solely responsible for that. Mikel Maron and Eugene Alvin Villar offered to help with organisation. |
Presenter: Geoffrey Kateregga.
Discussion after the presentation.
On work with refugees from South Sudan
Is it a conscious effort to have regional influence? (Question by Guillaume Rischard, board)
> In 2017-2018 we did a project mapping the refugee settlements with Humanitarian OSM Team and refugees from South Sudan. The project included mapping with the refugees and we did a lot of training.
> After the project ended we encouraged the refugees to form an OSM community for South Sudan, even if they were placed in Uganda.
> It is also part of our work to network and grow OSM communities in Africa. We have a strong and supporting network - e.g. the OSM community in Libya is encouraging other groups to start communities.
On board's decision regarding microgrants
What did you think of the current board's decision to run the microgrants again when the board has the financial infrastructure in place? (Question by Guillaume Rischard, board)
> It would be nice if there were microgrants every year, so that there would be no uncertainty if there would be microgrants next year.
> Janet Chapman on the chat mentioned that there would be organisations that would fund OSMF for microgrants, if OSMF asked.
On Geoffrey becoming again a board candidate
You run for the board two three years ago. Any thought on that? The crowd that is running for the board is still not diverse enough. (Question by Guillaume Rischard, board)
> In OSM Africa we encourage people to step up and run for the OSMF board. We would like to see someone from Africa on the board.
> We encourage community members to become OSMF members via the Active contributor membership program. This will increase the number of OSMF members from Africa, which will increase the chances of someone from Africa to be voted on the board.
> Willy Franck run for the OSMF board last year. Hopefully there will be someone again next year.
On board diversity
Comments by Mikel
- Board diversity is not only related to the countries of the board members but also to the understanding of how the Foundation works and having experience in it.
- There are various ways to get involved with the Foundation, e.g. the volunteer Working Groups (WGs) are a good entry point to get involved in the governance of the project.
Comments by Geoffrey
- It is interesting to look on what is stopping people participating in the Working Groups. People usually cite:
- Absence of internet or data limits.
- Language: all meetings are in English.
- Happy to see many people from OSM Africa attending today's meeting.
On State of the Map safety policy
What are your views on the approved State of the Map safety policy? (Question by Guillaume Rischard, board)
> I was following the mailing list discussion.
> Unsure whether all the views expressed in the mailing lists were put into consideration.
> There is no place which is 100% safe for everyone. One needs to consider all kinds of factors.
> Many countries have laws against homosexuality. We don't have control over the laws of the countries.
> We had this issue with organising the FOSS4G conference in Dar es Salaam. We considered the political atmosphere and how to make the attendees safe. But the decision can't be left entirely on the local organising committee.
Question to the board on assigning a board seat per continent
What does the board think of having of having a board with one person from each continent? (Question by Geoffrey)
> It has to be an elected board and a board consisting of volunteers.
> This board had diversified the number of Local Chapters (LCs), which are on the Advisory Board (AB). Initially the Advisory Board had representatives coming only from Europe. We now have one local chapter in every continent, so each continent has at least one voice on the Advisory Board.
> This board has also activated the AB and we use it to discuss ideas issues and discuss strategically. Things are better than they were.
> You can do quotas in a democratic fair way. Probably won't happen in OSMF soon.
Any other business
Engineering Working Group's request for budget
Background |
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The restarted Engineering Working Group (EWG) has asked the board to approve the following proposed budget (currently also mentioned on the main EWG page):
Our first budget will outline further detail, and is subject to change after the Working Group forms and we have initial meetings.
All code written must be open-source and available without charge. We would like to budget for administrative assistance for meeting minutes, document management, and other administrative tasks and believe this is best handled through existing contracts the board has in place. |
The proposed budget was submitted to the board after the agenda for this meeting got locked. It was suggested by board members that the topic could be raised for discussion during the "any other business" section of the board meeting.
The Treasurer is in favour of the Engineering Working Group (EWG) having a fixed budget.
Suggestion: have a discussion with the Treasurer first.
Points mentioned during discussion
- The Engineering Working Group (EWG) asks for 50000 but they don't have anyone yet to fulfill the work.
- The plan is to do it in a similar way to Microgrants and put out requests for proposals on particular topics suggested by the EWG but also on unrelated ones.
- There is going to be an EWG meeting on Monday.
Guest comments or questions
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No questions or comments during this section.
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Meeting ended 110 minutes after start.