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OpenStreetMap Foundation, Operations Meeting - Draft minutes

These minutes do not go through a formal acceptance process.
This is not strictly an Operations Working Group (OWG) meeting.

Thursday 23 July 2026, 19:00 London time
Location: Video room at https://osmvideo.cloud68.co

Participants

New action items from this meeting

  • Minh to mention again the GPS trace visibility change in the weekly recap, outlining the privacy implications. [Topic: GPS trace visibility change]
  • Minh to follow up with mmd. [Topic: CGImap maintenance]
  • Grant and Minh to discuss the MediaWiki OAuth extension work. [Topic: CGImap maintenance]
  • Grant to proceed with the MediaWiki upgrade on the test wiki in the next few days. [Topic: MediaWiki upgrade]
  • Minh to do cursory testing of extensions on the test wiki, once it is upgraded. [Topic: MediaWiki upgrade]
  • Grant to look into the Fastly timeout settings (connection timeout, first-byte timeout, and between-bytes timeout) and attempt to reproduce the GPX time-out issue using developer tools. [Topic: GPX uploads fail with 503]

Reportage

QGIS tile server quote

Related to action item 2026-06-25 Grant to create and send a quote for the server intended for QGIS traffic, to the supplier. [Topic: QGIS tile render server purchase]

Done. Grant will go to Dublin in early August.

AWS S3 bucket name

Related to action item 2026-06-25 Grant to provide the S3 bucket name to Tom. [Topic: Point-in-time recovery]

To be discussed today.

DWG non-disclosure agreements and moderator IP access

Related to action item 2026-05-28 Minh to follow up on Data Working Group (DWG) non-disclosure agreements, then IP access for moderators in website repo. [DWG request for user info for moderators]

DWG has an IRC channel.

Referer policy header on embed

Related to action item 2026-05-14 Paul to do PR setting referer policy header on embed

Done. Live.

AWS S3 bucket credentials for dev server

Related to action item 2026-01-22 Grant to get AWS S3 bucket credentials for the dev server. [Topic: Credativ consultancy on OSM.org Postgres database update] # 2026-05-14 Bucket created, credentials not provided yet.

Done.

GPS trace visibility change

[Topic added by Minh, due to Tom's message on the PR about the need to figure the messaging and the timing for the deployment.]

GPS trace visibility change is ready but questions about if/when to deploy

Communication plan: <link redacted>.

Affected applications

Minh and Rubén created a list of GitHub repositories mentioning these keywords, but many of them were abandoned.

Affected applications include OSMTracker on Android, OSM-NG, and others that use deprecated status types. The applications checked by Minh did not seem to default to one of the deprecated types. OSMTracker is typically fixing bugs within a month.

Engagement with the community

The change was mentioned on the weekly recap by Pablo, 1–2 months ago. This resulted in a few comments to the issue.

Uploading a trace type that is no longer supported

This will error out. Some apps might recover.

Suggestions

  • Grant to make a post on c.osm.org and Mastodon before the change. If posted today, it might be mentioned by weeklyOSM.
  • Term the change positively as a simplification and an improvement in privacy.

Action item

Minh to mention again the GPS trace visibility change in the weekly recap, outlining the privacy implications.

CGImap maintenance

Woazboat is concerned about mmd's absence, as a pull request submitted by them was not reviewed for an extended period (around 6 months). Ask Matt to migrate the CGImap repo https://github.com/zerebubuth/openstreetmap-CGImap to OSM org: https://github.com/zerebubuth/openstreetmap-CGImap/issues/160

Matt Amos (repository owner) is still available and happy to be engaged, despite reduced activity. He has attended OSM London events.

Maintenance

mmd is the de facto repository maintainer for some time. He did an experiment with an OAuth extension for MediaWiki. Also, a similar experiment connecting OSM and OHM, which OHM has been running for some time and is working perfectly.

Minh reached out to mmd but has not heard back. Sarah has heard from mmd recently and he is busy with life.

Issues needing immediate address

Suggestions

  • Grant and Tom to approach Matt directly.

Other points mentioned during discussion

Matt has previously refused requests to move the repository to the OSM org.

Action items

  • Minh to follow up with mmd.
  • Grant and Minh to discuss the MediaWiki OAuth extension work.

GPX uploads fail with 503

Related to https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/1378.

Issue: GPS trace uploads are failing for users on slow connections. Ruben tried to upload a 1.5 MB GPX file and it timed out. Multiple users in the forum have reported the same issue.

The problem is probably related to Fastly, rather than in the Apache configuration, as no timeout errors are visible on the server side. Apache has an overall two-minute time limit, but it is not clear whether this is the cause.

Action item

Grant to look into the Fastly timeout settings (connection timeout, first-byte timeout, and between-bytes timeout) and attempt to reproduce the GPX time-out issue using developer tools.

MediaWiki upgrade

The MediaWiki installation needs to be upgraded from version 43.9 to the new LTS release, 46.0. The upgrade is a two-step process: first an OS upgrade, then the MediaWiki upgrade. The OS upgrade does not appear to break the current MediaWiki installation, based on tests conducted on the test wiki. The new MediaWiki version is available, but point releases are not yet available.

Current work

Grant has synced all the bundled extensions. One extension has been moved into the core MediaWiki package and required special handling - it has already been added to Chef.

Suggestions

  • Minh to nudge Yuri.
  • Upgrade the board wiki first, after the test.

REST API

  • There is ongoing breakage around Wikibase related to the REST API, which is being phased out, so it might not matter.
  • The MediaWiki REST API is in flux.
  • There are two separate REST APIs in MediaWiki (old and new).

Other points mentioned during discussion

  • The main extensions being tested on the test wiki are the Translate and the Wikibase extensions, which have a cluster of issues.
  • Tom was previously testing the upgrades on the board and DWG wikis, as they don't have as many extensions.

Action items

  • Grant to proceed with the MediaWiki upgrade on the test wiki in the next few days.
  • Minh to do cursory testing of extensions on the test wiki, once it is upgraded.

Action items

  • 2026-06-25 Grant to create and send a quote for the server intended for QGIS traffic, to the supplier. [Topic: QGIS tile render server purchase] — Server ordered and being prepared
  • 2026-06-25 Grant to provide the S3 bucket name to Tom. [Topic: Point-in-time recovery] —
  • 2026-05-28 Minh to follow up on DWG non-disclosure agreements, then IP access for moderators in website repo. [DWG request for user info for moderators]
  • 2026-05-28 Paul to ask OSM France how do they view if we retire the HOT style from osm.org since it is not under active development [AOB: Tracestrack topo and HOT layers]
  • 2026-05-14 Grant to check with Fastly team via Slack about 100% ngwaf traffic
  • 2026-05-14 Paul to do PR setting referer policy header on embed — Live
  • 2026-03-19 Grant to research what triggers a large download from QGIS. [Topic: QGIS Tiles usage] # 2026-05-14 Not much progress; unable to find the new usage header in latest versions. # 2026-06-11 Action item to be parked.
  • 2026-03-19 Paul to overhaul how we're doing the 404 tiles. [Topic: Tiles] To be replaced by ticket.
  • 2026-03-19 Paul and Grant to run some time limited experiments during non peak hours to test catching anonymous/fake-ua scrapers. Genuine Google Bot etc will continue to be permitted. [Topic: Fastly Client Challenges]
  • 2026-01-22 Grant to get AWS S3 bucket credentials for the dev server. [Topic: Credativ consultancy on OSM.org Postgres database update] # 2026-05-14 Bucket created, credentials not provided yet.
  • 2025-10-16 Grant and Paul to set up a meeting about AWS Identity and Access Management Roles Anywhere https://docs.aws.amazon.com/rolesanywhere/latest/userguide/introduction.html. [Topic: AWS CA cert] # 2026-05-14 Grant to chat to Tom about what CA + Signed Certs are required. Grant to read the AWS documentation on requirements.
  • 2025-10-16 Grant to create a PR regarding refactoring some stuff. Make kitchen handle selecting cookbook-OS combos. and only running tests on cookbooks that have changed [Topic: Reworking of Test Kitchen methods for defining which jobs run on Test Kitchen Github actions]
  • 2025-10-16 Grant to create a PR about adding logic to Chef for retrying failed initial creation of Let's Encrypt certificates [Topic: Add logic to Chef for retrying failed initial creation of Let's Encrypt certificates]
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