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OpenStreetMap Foundation, Operations Meeting - Draft minutes

These minutes do not go through a formal acceptance process.
This is not strictly an Operations Working Group (OWG) meeting.

Thursday 18 April, 19:00 London time
Location: Video room at https://osmvideo.cloud68.co



New action items from this meeting

  • Grant Slater to post the notice for the upcoming Equinix Amsterdam Power Maintenance / HE.net maintenance. [Topic: Upcoming Equinix Amsterdam power maintenance / HE.net maintenance]
  • Grant Slater to reply to Equinix, to accept their offer. [Topic: Equinix]

Upcoming Equinix Amsterdam power maintenance / HE.net maintenance

https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/1051 (Equinix)
https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/1059 (HE.net)

On suggestion to switch sites

  • Rejected, as it might be too risky and a hard fail in Postgres.
  • There are some remaining barriers for easily switching, including how to easily move the diff generation.
  • Currently there is no simple way to migrate the primary DB server. It is a painful process, documented on the OPS wiki.

Other points mentioned during discussion

  • Concern on the breaker flipping on the other power feed (32 amps on the breaker, we're using 12).
  • We aren't going to have the inrush from hard drive spin up since they're not going to be spinning up, or from the capacitors, because they're already connected.
    • One of our power supplies on HP machine runs at 5 watts, but caps are fully charged.
  • If the break is due to us, it might take them longer to fix it.
  • Grant happy to do a test.

Action item: Grant Slater to post the maintenance outage notice.


  • We have to proceed assuming we won't get sponsorship by Equinix.
  • We asked them for a discounted price on power and they are giving us an extra kilowatt for a slightly lower price.
  • We do not have many options available.
  • We have contacted the Equinix foundation and if we provide some details that they asked for, they might have a look at them.

Suggestion: Send to the Equinix Foundation the details they asked for.

Action item: Grant to reply to Equinix, to accept their offer.

Any other business

Vector Tiles

  • Paul to look at deployment for Vector Tiles relatively soon, as parallelism tasks are turning out to be quite easy. Also plans to revisit earlier work at a later point, as fixes will be easier to do.
  • Paul would like to do it with Docker. DB to be run out of the container.
    • As Podman adds networking latency, it might not be preferable.
  • Grant happy to help with containers.

Suggestions on getting the Chef tests running:

  • Write a test and execute it using chef.
  • Follow documentation for running chef tests, including installing Docker and Ruby.
  • Use existing code as a template if needed.
  • Set up a container for tests. This container functions like a virtual machine, allowing effective interaction.

Link shared: https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

Action items reviewed at the beginning of the meeting

  • 2024-03-21 Paul to document in the ticket https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/518 that we will go with Znuny [Topic: OTRS]
  • 2024-03-21 Grant to reply to Equinix, restating the issue in a brief form to them. [Topic: Equinix]
  • 2024-03-07 Grant to open tickets about not forwarding incoming spammy tickets to other email servers, where they get bounced [Topic: email notifications getting marked as spam]
  • 2024-03-07 Grant and Guillaume to open a github issue about the redundancy of gateway / IPv6 "private subnet". Benefit / "Cost" [Topic: Redundancy of Gateway / IPv6 "private subnet"]
  • 2024-02-08 OWG to review the Editor policy during one of the next calls and possibly vote on it. [Editor Policy adding to OpenStreetMap.org]
  • 2023-11-30 Grant to revisit the "policy for purchasing" document, which currently is focused on specs, and add information such as the process for obtaining approval for purchases. [Reportage] Added info: Who Approves / Steps etc -> Grant to create GitHub ticket
  • 2023-11-30 OPS to review the issue of spam reports to ISPs in 6 months (May 2024) -> Grant to create GitHub ticket
  • 2023-05-18 Paul to start an open document listing goals for longer-term planning. [Topic: Longer-term planning]

Action items that have been stricken-through are either completed, or have been moved to GitHub tickets.