Licensing Working Group/Minutes/2019-12-12

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OpenStreetMap Foundation, Licensing Working Group - Agenda & Minutes
Thursday December 12th 2019, 20:00 - 21:00 UTC



  • Simon Poole
  • Michael Cheng
  • Kathleen Lu
  • Nuno Caldeira (joined at 43’20’’)




Adoption of past Minutes

Previous Action Items

  • 2017-03-02 Simon to determine existing obligations towards sources listed on the copyright page.
  • 2017-05-04 All/Simon to review import guidelines wrt licence “approval”.
  • 2017-09-05 Simon to ask Lawdit for quotes for registering for the additional class suggested.
  • 2018-03-08 All to look at the Working Groups collecting personal information.
  • 2018-04-12 LWG to follow-up on the iD editor, as the number of changesets is now included on the changeset comments thread.
  • 2018-04-12 Simon to contact The LWG will allow use of domain name on the condition that if there's local group in the future, they will have to concede control to them and get agreement in writing, so that if domain expires it doesn't get squatted on.
  • 2018-05-10 Jim to sign the LWG NDA.
  • 2018-10-11 Simon to ask the board to contact the Working Groups about the NDA and ask people to sign up.
  • 2018-11-08 Simon to ask William to provide information about the Canadian OGL variants he is interested in, in a systematic format.
  • 2019-01-10 Simon to draft text to developers of apps related to geo/mapping, having OSM in their names or using variations of our logo.
  • 2019-02-14 Simon to summarise the advice regarding information requests from law enforcement and send it around.
  • 2019-04-11 Simon to add LWG past guidance which has not gone into the attribution page.
  • 2019-07-11 Kathleen to draft one-line attribution statement for the Tile Licence and get feedback from the LWG.
  • 2019-08-08 Simon to seek legal advice on potential GDPR/privacy issues with a no-deal Brexit.
  • 2019-09-12 Kathleen to talk to iD developers and see what they can implement as an iD internal based solution.
  • 2019-10-10 Simon draft letter to board wrt PD checkbox.




  • Granted: Argentina
  • Pending registrations: Mexico, Iran, redoing Philippines due to mix-up.
  • Issues with: Russia, India, China.

On going forward with a stylized/design mark in those cases
(registering with the capitalisation that we use, a specific font and making it more logo-like)

  • Protection against different stylizations is not a given.
  • Proof of use in jurisdiction required in most cases.

Cost consideration: for the same cost we might be able to register for the full mark on a different jurisdiction.

  • It might have been easier to apply 15 years ago, when there were not many discussions on open map data.

On the Madrid protocol
It will be substantially cheaper if apply to register at 7-10 countries (as we have done in the past) instead of just 2-3.

Action item: Simon to discuss with TM lawyers and report back.

Budget 2020

Draft (GDoc)

  • Budget not asked for yet by OSMF.
  • Simon to work more on it after feedback from trademark lawyers.

Note: OKF = OpenKnowledge Foundation

Attribution Guidance

Remaining open question: multiple attribution text.

Snapshot of draft as on 2020-01-10
See the current draft here.

Discussion on six text options for multiple attribution text and rewriting. Change of section title to "Attribution together with other required information".

43’20’’ after start: Nuno joined

Decision to send draft to the board.

Tile licence

Downstream attribution requirements from the ODbL?

Deferred to next meeting.

Inquiry from Uni Heidelberg

Background by S.P: We’ve received an inquiry from Heidelberg university wrt a project in which they would like to use (I’m assuming for routing) data on forest tracks from a third party together with OSM for the normal public road network.

This would seem to stretch our current guidance, opinions?

Suggestion that this case could be considered as a produced work, where the proprietary part would have its own licence and the OSM data would remain under ODbL.

Action item: Simon to get back to them to see if they are still interested.

Any Other Business


Next Meeting

January 9th 2019 20:00 UTC on Mumble